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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:15 pm 
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As a freelancer, it's always key to hedge your bets. So, although I don't have a lot of time for affiliate marketing, it's on my agenda for 2009 and I have seen some small profit on my own from what little time I spent with it in 2008.

Anyway, here's two passive income sources you might not have even thought of. And one really isn't passive income, but could be thought of it.

1. Tax deductions. Although you're not making money with tax deductions, you are writing off taxes that could be sucking away some of your precious money. So maximize these to their fullest. Of course I'd rather we be on the FairTax plan (for those of you in the USA), but I'll settle for doing the tax deductions for now. Also, by listing yourself as an affiliate marketer rather than a web developer, you can justify more of your write-offs with the IRS. For instance, a trip to Disneyworld could be considered research for affordable vacations on your travel site you put up where you collect income from affiliate ad revenue. (My CPA is permitting me to write that one off this year, but only after careful scrutiny on how this is arranged.) Oh, and to be perfectly clear, we did do our research on that trip, and did find the cheapest way possible to make that trip happen, yet have a slight bit of luxury in the trip as well.

2. Farming. Yes, I said farming -- God's passive income opportunity for those with a little land. If done right, you plant it, outsource the harvesting, sell it, and don't spend too much time on it. I live on 21 acres that were given to me through my wife's inheritance. I am surrounded by well-seasoned farmers who have been doing this for many years. At least 15 of these acres here are ready for a farm. I don't know what kind of farm I'll start, and I'll be outsourcing some of the work and equipment use, but my father-in-law and I are going to contact some county and state departments on this, run the numbers, and make a decision here in a couple months on what to plant and how to make this profitable. I have never farmed before, but I have worked on tractors tilling soil, smoothing land with a box blade, and bush hogging brush. I was also the guy who hung doors, installed baseboards and window trim in my house, and so if I can do that, I think I can manage the difficulty of farming as well. I also learned that you never ever, under any circumstances, run a diesel tractor out of fuel or you'll spend half a day trying to fix it. I also learned that tractors get a tremendous amount of stress on them with vibration, and that metal on it will wiggle back and forth and just break right off -- so tractors require care and maintenance.

But again, if I can't make it profitable, or occupies too much of my precious time, I won't do it. So, I recommend you look into this carefully and make a sound decision about it.

Say, did you know that a guy in North Carolina sells special trees for truffles, and that he can turn one acre of land into profit in just 3 years and yield $40,000 per acre? Unfortunately it takes 3 years to get started, and truffle farming requires specially trained dogs, but it does sound lucrative. It's probably not the right fit for me, but does get my mind in the right direction.

I've also thought about organic farming because I'm not too crazy about throwing down all these chemicals around my house and its well water system.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:24 pm 
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Tax deductions are not passive income, or even income at all.. they're deductions. THe farm idea is great if you've got the staff to run it, if you're running it yourself its not really passive. Tax deductions are great. I write off all the mileage on my car.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:51 am 
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This is an interesting thread.

I wasn't expecting to read about farming here, but you're completely right.

If you've got the land, there is money to be made from it. In a way, you could draw a parallel between farming and the web. If you own land, it's like owning a website that's primed and ready to go. You already own it, so why not optimize your site and throw some Google ads on it? You're not going to get rich, but you might as well put it to work for you.

We run a web consulting business from home, and our home happens to be on 63 acres--25 of which are fields. We aren't growing anything this year, but over the next couple of years we are definitely going to be farming. We live in Canada, and soybeans grow really well here, so we're considering growing those. We'd love to grow them organically, but we've got to do more research about that aspect of it.

And...to come full circle with your two topics, farming can lead to tax breaks, so it's definitely worth checking into from that angle as well. If you own farmland, of course. :)


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:54 am 
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Grow organic. We used to live next to a big orange orchard in the central valley of California, and I had a plugged and runny nose 24/7. My dad had major back trouble. It's bad news. After we got out of there, we all recovered after a couple of months. I think some of the damage on my nose was permanent, though. :(

We buy all organic. Plus, we have a garden.


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I'm not sure how farming counts as passive income. Having grown up on a farm, I can tell you for a fact that farming is not "passive". It's long, hard hours.

My family has land too & the majority of it is leased out in a 1:2 cost/profit sharing arrangement. That is passive income.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:12 pm 
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pickle wrote:
I'm not sure how farming counts as passive income. Having grown up on a farm, I can tell you for a fact that farming is not "passive". It's long, hard hours.

My family has land too & the majority of it is leased out in a 1:2 cost/profit sharing arrangement. That is passive income.


Well, it all depends on what you do and how you do it. If I had livestock or did all the work myself, then heck yeah.

What I'm talking about is renting a tractor, planting some junk, using organic fertilizer and "herbicide" that goes down when you plant, and then paying a couple legal migrant workers to come harvest the stuff and stick it in a truck. I then just drive the truck to some usual market and sell the junk.

And while the junk is growing, I could be in the house coding up a frenzy for clients.

So, I'm helping the environment, feeding people, and making money by hardly doing anything.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:23 pm 
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Quite aware of how old this post is, but I was curious to know how tax deductions counted as extra income. Is it because of the money we save by listing important expenditures from the past year? If this is the case, should we, as taxpayers, deduct everything we possibly can? Also, should we make every attempt to take advantage of qualified programs? For example, should we just go ahead and pay for medical expenses, education and so on?

Thanks, everyone! Any advice would be super appreciated! :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:51 am 
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Wow, farming being discussed on php forum..

The next world war will surely be fought over food..


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